Elon Musk v Donald Trump – who has the real power?

Elon Musk has said the UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer should go to jail and called the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz a “fool”. As the world’s richest man, owner of X and a soon-to–be US government official, why is Musk getting involved in European politics? And what does he want from   Donald Trump and his second presidency?

In this episode of the America Fourcast, Matt Frei is joined by Albert Eisenberg, a political strategist who runs the messaging firm BlueStateRed, and Joan Donovan, assistant professor of journalism at Boston University to discuss if Elon Musk is good for democracy and whether Donald Trump can rein him in.