‘If you alienate public, you blame them, you point fingers at them, things fall apart’ – behavioural scientist Prof Steve Reicher

We were joined by Prof Christina Pagel, director of the Clinical Operational Research Unit at University College London. She’s also a member of the Independent Sage group which offers an alternative point of view to the government’s advisors.

And Prof Steve Reicher, a behavioural scientist at the University of St Andrews, he’s advised both the UK and Scottish governments on their response to the coronavirus crisis.