Rick Rubin: the legendary music producer on working with Run DMC, Slayer and Johnny Cash

Few people have done more to shape popular music than Rick Rubin. After co-founding the Def Jam label from a New York college dorm in the eighties, he helped bring rap into the mainstream, before applying his creative alchemy to just about every genre imaginable, and defining, or re-defining – the careers of artists like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jay-Z and Johnny Cash.

He chooses not to name-drop, though, in his new book The Creative Act, instead focusing on the wisdom acquired during his career.

Krishnan sat down with Rick Rubin at length for our Ways to Change the World podcast.